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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possible solution of XBL moderators perhaps?  Sponsored or employed by MS to enforce policy?  Maybe this is better for a forum topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possible solution of XBL moderators perhaps?  Sponsored or employed by MS to enforce policy?  Maybe this is better for a forum topic?</p>
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		<title>By: nostars</title>
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		<dc:creator>nostars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Keith - I think XBL has turned out the way it has because kids on XBL have no fear of retribution.  Maybe if Microsoft would be a little more proactive on complaints and ban these kids without refunds, then they would clean up their act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Keith &#8211; I think XBL has turned out the way it has because kids on XBL have no fear of retribution.  Maybe if Microsoft would be a little more proactive on complaints and ban these kids without refunds, then they would clean up their act.</p>
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		<title>By: nostars</title>
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		<dc:creator>nostars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When XBL was in beta, it was a simpler, more civilized world.  Now it has gone to hell in a hand basket, thanks to people who say the stupidest things on XBL.  That has pretty much turned me off to online play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When XBL was in beta, it was a simpler, more civilized world.  Now it has gone to hell in a hand basket, thanks to people who say the stupidest things on XBL.  That has pretty much turned me off to online play.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Silthos - being good at something doesn&#039;t make you an elitist.  It&#039;s the attitude and presentation that you carry about yourself.  Even if you are good at something, don&#039;t be a prick about it.  And the expectation is to have a community in which people play and act appropriately, not hack, glitch, teamkill, etc.

@ Will - you live in Oz, your winters are warmer than many countries summers.. go outsides... unless you live in broken hill, then i&#039;m sorry.

@ All - Good points on noting a lot of it is probably attention starved individuals, not actual issues of racism or hate.  But I would like to point out these actions can help breed hate and racism, somethings which if looked at realistically you will acknowledge can never be completed eliminated, unfortunately.  

Social issues aside, why has Xbox Live become such a breeding ground for these attitudes/actions?  I would hope this community can wise up and self-police before someone else enforces regulation.   50 complaints to get a boot? for a service people pay for?  tough sell with clan mentality.  I think MS, who bans the word Linux from Xbox Live, would crack down pretty hard if this environment begins to hurt their profit margins or reputation.

Social commentary,  keep you kids in line, pay attention to what they do and say online and act like an decent human being yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Silthos &#8211; being good at something doesn&#8217;t make you an elitist.  It&#8217;s the attitude and presentation that you carry about yourself.  Even if you are good at something, don&#8217;t be a prick about it.  And the expectation is to have a community in which people play and act appropriately, not hack, glitch, teamkill, etc.</p>
<p>@ Will &#8211; you live in Oz, your winters are warmer than many countries summers.. go outsides&#8230; unless you live in broken hill, then i&#8217;m sorry.</p>
<p>@ All &#8211; Good points on noting a lot of it is probably attention starved individuals, not actual issues of racism or hate.  But I would like to point out these actions can help breed hate and racism, somethings which if looked at realistically you will acknowledge can never be completed eliminated, unfortunately.  </p>
<p>Social issues aside, why has Xbox Live become such a breeding ground for these attitudes/actions?  I would hope this community can wise up and self-police before someone else enforces regulation.   50 complaints to get a boot? for a service people pay for?  tough sell with clan mentality.  I think MS, who bans the word Linux from Xbox Live, would crack down pretty hard if this environment begins to hurt their profit margins or reputation.</p>
<p>Social commentary,  keep you kids in line, pay attention to what they do and say online and act like an decent human being yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dogman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No arguments it happens on XBL, but in your &quot;story&quot; one is supposed to believe that PSN is devoid of such behaviour.  I was booted from a Tekken game (unranked) for being a beginner when I just bought the game that day.  I was called any number of names and told how much I suck in the short amount of time it took to boot me from the room.  I would have left willingly but they beat me to the boot.   Besides that I don&#039;t know if your just hard of hearing or what but this type behaviour has been around since multiplayer gaming went online and in no way is specific to XBL.  In fact I&#039;d be willing to bet that if you experience it more on XBL it&#039;s just because you play it more often than PS3&#039;s crappy network system, and if your to lazy to mute some nerd then who&#039;s problem is that anyway.  Yours for being lazy.  Don&#039;t respond to this comment I am not a fan of this site and I won&#039;t be back to see it, I have no need for one-sided deflated arguments like these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No arguments it happens on XBL, but in your &#8220;story&#8221; one is supposed to believe that PSN is devoid of such behaviour.  I was booted from a Tekken game (unranked) for being a beginner when I just bought the game that day.  I was called any number of names and told how much I suck in the short amount of time it took to boot me from the room.  I would have left willingly but they beat me to the boot.   Besides that I don&#8217;t know if your just hard of hearing or what but this type behaviour has been around since multiplayer gaming went online and in no way is specific to XBL.  In fact I&#8217;d be willing to bet that if you experience it more on XBL it&#8217;s just because you play it more often than PS3&#8217;s crappy network system, and if your to lazy to mute some nerd then who&#8217;s problem is that anyway.  Yours for being lazy.  Don&#8217;t respond to this comment I am not a fan of this site and I won&#8217;t be back to see it, I have no need for one-sided deflated arguments like these.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its mainly Americans they either shout or complain,stop moaning and crying welcome to real world and get out of that virtual world you all live in grow up or get a girlfriend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its mainly Americans they either shout or complain,stop moaning and crying welcome to real world and get out of that virtual world you all live in grow up or get a girlfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: EHT</title>
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		<dc:creator>EHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see it coming, probably by Fox news - headline: &quot;gaming promotes racism because kids feel safe behind their computer&quot; LOL...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see it coming, probably by Fox news &#8211; headline: &#8220;gaming promotes racism because kids feel safe behind their computer&#8221; LOL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mister needles</title>
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		<dc:creator>mister needles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually played a game of COD4 yesterday with 6 10th prestiges (gold cross) and they did not offend anyone. Usually those guys are asshole who take the game way too seriously that they should be in halo, but these guys were laughing and having a good time with everyone. I wonder if it was just drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually played a game of COD4 yesterday with 6 10th prestiges (gold cross) and they did not offend anyone. Usually those guys are asshole who take the game way too seriously that they should be in halo, but these guys were laughing and having a good time with everyone. I wonder if it was just drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh noez, poor Live.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh noez, poor Live.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... I play on Live, But most of the people I do match up with are pretty friendly, and not a-holes. 
However, I do run into sexism, being a girl gamer. My favorite being some dbag singing to me the you are a c*nt song on Halo 3. I don&#039;t really let anything phase me though, I just kicked his booty. But this is hardly every game. 
I think that Live is still good, and fun. The random racists and sexists aren&#039;t gonna ruin it for me when I can just push ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; I play on Live, But most of the people I do match up with are pretty friendly, and not a-holes.<br />
However, I do run into sexism, being a girl gamer. My favorite being some dbag singing to me the you are a c*nt song on Halo 3. I don&#8217;t really let anything phase me though, I just kicked his booty. But this is hardly every game.<br />
I think that Live is still good, and fun. The random racists and sexists aren&#8217;t gonna ruin it for me when I can just push ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: kdot</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO blaming Live is very stupid.  That&#039;s denying the fact that the internet breeds these sorts of people.

Log into game, ask question like where something is what happens? 5% give a helpful answer, 45% give sarcastic answers, 30% call you a noob, 20% tell you to press alt   f4.

The anonymosity (dunno if thats even a word) of the internet means people speak their mind a lot more than in real life, feel like they are invincible and think that swearing and using racial slurs is cool.  Only now you get to hear the voices along with it.  

I personally have been in tons of games on live and not had many incidents, but when i do it is always teh americans.  no idea why, but americans seem to deserve their bad rep.  Went into one game in CoD4 that was lagging and told this group to stfu because i didnt want to hear their rascist comments (maybe something more people shoudl do), saying how the hosts internet was mexican, racial slur racial slur, beans, blah blah blah.

Doesnt matter what platform its on they will follow.  Is prob not as bad on PSN because they dont have standardised voice chat(?) or supply headset/mics(?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO blaming Live is very stupid.  That&#8217;s denying the fact that the internet breeds these sorts of people.</p>
<p>Log into game, ask question like where something is what happens? 5% give a helpful answer, 45% give sarcastic answers, 30% call you a noob, 20% tell you to press alt   f4.</p>
<p>The anonymosity (dunno if thats even a word) of the internet means people speak their mind a lot more than in real life, feel like they are invincible and think that swearing and using racial slurs is cool.  Only now you get to hear the voices along with it.  </p>
<p>I personally have been in tons of games on live and not had many incidents, but when i do it is always teh americans.  no idea why, but americans seem to deserve their bad rep.  Went into one game in CoD4 that was lagging and told this group to stfu because i didnt want to hear their rascist comments (maybe something more people shoudl do), saying how the hosts internet was mexican, racial slur racial slur, beans, blah blah blah.</p>
<p>Doesnt matter what platform its on they will follow.  Is prob not as bad on PSN because they dont have standardised voice chat(?) or supply headset/mics(?).</p>
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