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	<title>Comments on: XBL User&#8217;s Open Letter to MS About Live Issues; Taken Down by MS Soon After</title>
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		<title>By: mister needles</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2008/01/09/xbl-users-open-letter-to-ms-about-live-taken-down-by-ms-soon-after/comment-page-2/#comment-23638</link>
		<dc:creator>mister needles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>live seems to have been fixed hasn&#039;t it? I mean I can now find and stay in games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>live seems to have been fixed hasn&#8217;t it? I mean I can now find and stay in games.</p>
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		<title>By: DelRiego</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2008/01/09/xbl-users-open-letter-to-ms-about-live-taken-down-by-ms-soon-after/comment-page-2/#comment-23470</link>
		<dc:creator>DelRiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree, 

I don&#039;t like to play on pc that&#039;s why I don&#039;t mind to pay for playing online

live is an enterteinment service not a basic  need like water or power you won&#039;t die if you can&#039;t play online or your arcade games for three weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree, </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like to play on pc that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t mind to pay for playing online</p>
<p>live is an enterteinment service not a basic  need like water or power you won&#8217;t die if you can&#8217;t play online or your arcade games for three weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf26pack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf26pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ depressed

Expansion Packs Usually have to do with MMO&#039;s or Strategy Games and include a vast chunk of extra&#039;s worthy of being paid for. Not just a costume change or a couple of extra cars and one extra Playable Character. Most Expansion packs Include whole Islands and vast lands with many more objectives to complete. Now I have never bought an expansion pack myself but have seen some on the PSN. Such as Cars that are already in-game if you unlock them now obviously this is just EA nickel &amp; diming players who aren&#039;t really players. I have also seen DLC for Folklore which I really can&#039;t comment on as for content but I bet it is nothing like a true Expansion pack for the PC. Same thing with DLC for Motorstorm a couple of cars for $3.49 here and some tracks for $4.99 there. It can end up adding up. It is just not the same as a true Expansion pack to me. The way I combat it though is to buy the game later in it&#039;s life when it has gone down in price and then slowly purchase the DLC and end up paying a price pretty close to the Original Retail price. I may not get to play the game immeadeatly but I&#039;m in no hurry.

@ pixelsword
No Problem :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ depressed</p>
<p>Expansion Packs Usually have to do with MMO&#8217;s or Strategy Games and include a vast chunk of extra&#8217;s worthy of being paid for. Not just a costume change or a couple of extra cars and one extra Playable Character. Most Expansion packs Include whole Islands and vast lands with many more objectives to complete. Now I have never bought an expansion pack myself but have seen some on the PSN. Such as Cars that are already in-game if you unlock them now obviously this is just EA nickel &amp; diming players who aren&#8217;t really players. I have also seen DLC for Folklore which I really can&#8217;t comment on as for content but I bet it is nothing like a true Expansion pack for the PC. Same thing with DLC for Motorstorm a couple of cars for $3.49 here and some tracks for $4.99 there. It can end up adding up. It is just not the same as a true Expansion pack to me. The way I combat it though is to buy the game later in it&#8217;s life when it has gone down in price and then slowly purchase the DLC and end up paying a price pretty close to the Original Retail price. I may not get to play the game immeadeatly but I&#8217;m in no hurry.</p>
<p>@ pixelsword<br />
No Problem <img src='http://loot-ninja.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mister needles</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2008/01/09/xbl-users-open-letter-to-ms-about-live-taken-down-by-ms-soon-after/comment-page-2/#comment-23414</link>
		<dc:creator>mister needles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dwells55 I hear that, but since I heard of the army halo 3 contest (today) I decided to go back to the faggocity.

@TVTiZtiK
PICS NAO!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dwells55 I hear that, but since I heard of the army halo 3 contest (today) I decided to go back to the faggocity.</p>
<p>@TVTiZtiK<br />
PICS NAO!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TVTiZtiK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TVTiZtiK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DWells
Theres already away to slap over the internet. It&#039;s called DDoS. Don&#039;t be such a script kiddie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DWells<br />
Theres already away to slap over the internet. It&#8217;s called DDoS. Don&#8217;t be such a script kiddie.</p>
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		<title>By: DWells55</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2008/01/09/xbl-users-open-letter-to-ms-about-live-taken-down-by-ms-soon-after/comment-page-2/#comment-23412</link>
		<dc:creator>DWells55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ashleigh:
&quot;XBL is NOT a pier to pier thing, there are servers involved (does no-one remember all the rucas when EA wanted to use their own servers for game server hosting?)&quot;
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Although Xbox Live does use centralized servers for remote data such as the friends list, that&#039;s about it.  Think of it like AOL Instant Messenger - you have your buddy list and ads coming from their server and your messages go through their servers, but as soon as you do anything else (like file transfer), it&#039;s peer to peer.  Voice chat, game hosting, etc. are done using peer to peer bandwidth.  Xbox Live uses servers to organize the players together, but from that point on it&#039;s the users&#039; bandwidth responsible for the games.


@mister needles
&quot;still, when we can’t bitch about gay crap happening on halo, we find the next thing that could even slightly tick us off.&quot;
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Actually, I quit Halo 3 as soon as Call of Duty 4 came out.  I&#039;d played Halo 2 online pretty much every day since its release, but Halo 3 is a letdown for me and I&#039;ve become tired of Bungie&#039;s attitude towards the more hardcore and competitive portion of their community.  My letter was not just a rant about something that &quot;slightly ticked me off,&quot; it&#039;s something that recently occurred to me and I felt like sharing.


@TVTiZtiK
I can&#039;t believe you just did that.  Once I invent a way to slap people over the internet, you&#039;re first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ashleigh:<br />
&#8220;XBL is NOT a pier to pier thing, there are servers involved (does no-one remember all the rucas when EA wanted to use their own servers for game server hosting?)&#8221;<br />
&#8212;<br />
Although Xbox Live does use centralized servers for remote data such as the friends list, that&#8217;s about it.  Think of it like AOL Instant Messenger &#8211; you have your buddy list and ads coming from their server and your messages go through their servers, but as soon as you do anything else (like file transfer), it&#8217;s peer to peer.  Voice chat, game hosting, etc. are done using peer to peer bandwidth.  Xbox Live uses servers to organize the players together, but from that point on it&#8217;s the users&#8217; bandwidth responsible for the games.</p>
<p>@mister needles<br />
&#8220;still, when we can’t bitch about gay crap happening on halo, we find the next thing that could even slightly tick us off.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;<br />
Actually, I quit Halo 3 as soon as Call of Duty 4 came out.  I&#8217;d played Halo 2 online pretty much every day since its release, but Halo 3 is a letdown for me and I&#8217;ve become tired of Bungie&#8217;s attitude towards the more hardcore and competitive portion of their community.  My letter was not just a rant about something that &#8220;slightly ticked me off,&#8221; it&#8217;s something that recently occurred to me and I felt like sharing.</p>
<p>@TVTiZtiK<br />
I can&#8217;t believe you just did that.  Once I invent a way to slap people over the internet, you&#8217;re first.</p>
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		<title>By: TVTiZtiK</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2008/01/09/xbl-users-open-letter-to-ms-about-live-taken-down-by-ms-soon-after/comment-page-2/#comment-23411</link>
		<dc:creator>TVTiZtiK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also just like to say DWells55X has an extremely hot cousin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also just like to say DWells55X has an extremely hot cousin.</p>
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		<title>By: TVTiZtiK</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2008/01/09/xbl-users-open-letter-to-ms-about-live-taken-down-by-ms-soon-after/comment-page-2/#comment-23410</link>
		<dc:creator>TVTiZtiK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am good friend of DWells55X, in fact he&#039;s the one who directed me to this page. He&#039;s posting a comment right now as well (I don&#039;t know which one of us will finish first). We don&#039;t why his gamertag is messed up. Last night we were playing some CoD4 and in the leaderboards his name showed up as &quot;?????&quot;. In the lobby it showed up fine but in the leaderboards it was all weird. His rank,kills,deaths,etc all showed up fine but the name just said &quot;?????&quot;.  So unless he&#039;s figured it out in the last 5 mins since I talked to him, nobody knows what going on with his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am good friend of DWells55X, in fact he&#8217;s the one who directed me to this page. He&#8217;s posting a comment right now as well (I don&#8217;t know which one of us will finish first). We don&#8217;t why his gamertag is messed up. Last night we were playing some CoD4 and in the leaderboards his name showed up as &#8220;?????&#8221;. In the lobby it showed up fine but in the leaderboards it was all weird. His rank,kills,deaths,etc all showed up fine but the name just said &#8220;?????&#8221;.  So unless he&#8217;s figured it out in the last 5 mins since I talked to him, nobody knows what going on with his name.</p>
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		<title>By: DWells55</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWells55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, just wanted to give you a heads up that nothing happened to my account.  The invalid GamerTag issue was just temporary.  I&#039;ll admit it was pretty odd though, I first noticed it in Call of Duty 4 when a friend of mine pointed out that my name no longer showed up on the Leaderboards and was instead replaced by several ? characters.  It&#039;s since returned to normal.  Ironically enough, the night my GamerTag was invalid I had no trouble getting games in Call of Duty 4 with my party but since then it&#039;s been a hassle and flat-out impossible on one particularly frustrating hour-long occasion.

I just glanced over my letter again and noticed a couple typos and wording errors.  The letter wasn&#039;t proofread or anything; to be honest, it was actually written in between Law and Order: SVU commercials on Tuesday night.  Normally I&#039;d put a bit more effort in, but I was expecting the thread to be quickly silenced in the form of a lock or deletion.  However, I wasn&#039;t expecting this much support from the community.  Thanks guys, I&#039;m glad to see there are others who feel the way I do.  I&#039;m not a cheap person, but I do believe that consumers deserve much better treatment than what they commonly receive from larger companies.

I&#039;ve attempted to contact the forum moderator who locked my post regarding why a topic promoting civil and organized discussion was locked, but I am yet to receive a reply and doubt I will.  I&#039;ve noticed others have reposted my letter and those threads have also been locked, but now without the person responsible posting, thus giving me no one to contact.  I&#039;m considering reposting the letter with a specific note to the moderators as well as a link to the Digg that you guys created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, just wanted to give you a heads up that nothing happened to my account.  The invalid GamerTag issue was just temporary.  I&#8217;ll admit it was pretty odd though, I first noticed it in Call of Duty 4 when a friend of mine pointed out that my name no longer showed up on the Leaderboards and was instead replaced by several ? characters.  It&#8217;s since returned to normal.  Ironically enough, the night my GamerTag was invalid I had no trouble getting games in Call of Duty 4 with my party but since then it&#8217;s been a hassle and flat-out impossible on one particularly frustrating hour-long occasion.</p>
<p>I just glanced over my letter again and noticed a couple typos and wording errors.  The letter wasn&#8217;t proofread or anything; to be honest, it was actually written in between Law and Order: SVU commercials on Tuesday night.  Normally I&#8217;d put a bit more effort in, but I was expecting the thread to be quickly silenced in the form of a lock or deletion.  However, I wasn&#8217;t expecting this much support from the community.  Thanks guys, I&#8217;m glad to see there are others who feel the way I do.  I&#8217;m not a cheap person, but I do believe that consumers deserve much better treatment than what they commonly receive from larger companies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve attempted to contact the forum moderator who locked my post regarding why a topic promoting civil and organized discussion was locked, but I am yet to receive a reply and doubt I will.  I&#8217;ve noticed others have reposted my letter and those threads have also been locked, but now without the person responsible posting, thus giving me no one to contact.  I&#8217;m considering reposting the letter with a specific note to the moderators as well as a link to the Digg that you guys created.</p>
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		<title>By: mister needles</title>
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		<dc:creator>mister needles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ashliegh
still, when we can&#039;t bitch about gay crap happening on halo, we find the next thing that could even slightly tick us off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ashliegh<br />
still, when we can&#8217;t bitch about gay crap happening on halo, we find the next thing that could even slightly tick us off.</p>
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