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	<title>Comments on: Xbox 360 Elite Prone to Same Problems as Others</title>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-29808</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XBOX 360 SUCKS ASS.  I went through 4 of them and no im not a kid that throws them around.  Yes I even had the fan to make sure it didnt over heat. first one rings of death after a week. Second one rings of death after a day. Third one Rings of death after 2 months.  Fourth one sounds like a motor engine when i put disc in one week later cannot read disc error that system lasted more than a year wow there goes my warrenty. Sony here i come hopefully i dont have as many problems with them as xbox 360.  I called microsoft and they said your warrenty is up but you can get it repaired for 90 dollars.  Yeah not even worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XBOX 360 SUCKS ASS.  I went through 4 of them and no im not a kid that throws them around.  Yes I even had the fan to make sure it didnt over heat. first one rings of death after a week. Second one rings of death after a day. Third one Rings of death after 2 months.  Fourth one sounds like a motor engine when i put disc in one week later cannot read disc error that system lasted more than a year wow there goes my warrenty. Sony here i come hopefully i dont have as many problems with them as xbox 360.  I called microsoft and they said your warrenty is up but you can get it repaired for 90 dollars.  Yeah not even worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: CS1</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-27177</link>
		<dc:creator>CS1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-27177</guid>
		<description>My first xbox was an elite, I was a little reluctant to buy a next-gen system at first. So I waited, and waited, after hearing about all the horror stories of 360 fans, and seeing all the videos on the RROD's and other issues, I was glad I waited. Finally the elite was announced, I waited for 2 or 3 months and finally decided this was the 360 I was meant to get. 

Well long story short, it lasted almost 8 months.. and now my system is currently back at the repair center and I'm waiting for it. I did not encounter the Red Ring of Death prob, my issue was with the video, was playing a game, started seeing some strange lines migrate across the screen, thought it was a dirty disc issue, went to the dashboard, saw the same lines showing up on there, next thought was it's the tv, so I shut both off, turned the tv back on, 360 back on,  and everything was fine, except for the fact that now there was no video at all, I could hear my 360 in the background loading up and that's it. Tried everything to fix it, different inputs on the tv, nothing, used the composite, component and hdmi hook ups in different inputs, nothing, tried it on 3 different tv's and all their inputs.. nothing, bought another hd cable, thinking that was the culprit... nothing.  Only the audio remained after each try..

Called up MS support center, spoke to some Indian guy who spoke to me as if I was born yesterday, asked me if I had plugged in the correct colors of the cables into my tv. Before he could go on, I explained everything as I had above, he continued to not listen to what I had just said and asked me if I had tried a different television or a different cable. At this point, I lost it, I told him when I called I got a notification that this call maybe monitored and recorded, why don't you find the part where I just explained to you what your asking me to do next. I've switched the cables, tried multiple inputs on different tvs, have tried switching from hdtv to standard definition on each of them, what do you not understand that I'm telling you? Finally he tells me to send it in, that was about 3 weeks ago now, and I'm still waiting...

I read a number of the comments above, some people are trying to belittle the people who have had problems by stating, I've had such and such number of 360's and I never had a problem and so forth. If you haven't than your one of the lucky ones, and until it happens to you, you won't understand the frustration of others, so please shut your mouth. I wish there was an accurate statistic of how many 360's have been returned for service that we could all go and look at, I would be willing to bet the ratio of defective products would be something like one out of every four sold. It could even possibly be 1 out of 3. It really wouldn't surprise me. I did a lot of reading before I ever bought my system, the people with defective products sold to them heavily outweigh the people trying to support Microsoft and their inferior product. Glance and read above this comment and you will see what I mean. You could make the argument that there are less people supporting Microsoft on here because they are actually playing their 360 that works right now (for the time being.)

Another thing I never understood was this whole console war issue, PS3 vs 360. Some people will defend their playsations reputation vs the 360's to their death. As if they held major stock in either product or helped build the dam thing. I just don't get it, if it works, play the games and try to enjoy them. Gaming after all is supposed to be entertaining and fun, not a debate of who's or what is better. If your fortunate enough to own both systems and one of them goes defective on you (and most likely we know which one that would be.) It doesn't necessarily mean the PS3 is better and more entertaining of the two, I myself have played both a lot at friends houses before I bought my 360, and when it comes to playing online, the 360 experience for me was much better. The gaming and graphics on both are equal (and if there is a difference, it's very subtle), however the online experience on the 360 is much more satisfying, and less prone to experiencing lag on certain games. Problem is, if your like me and you get a defective 360 product you do tend to wonder if buying a PS3 maybe the way to go. After all, last time I checked, there aren't 100's of sites and forums dedicated to solving your PS3's issues, nor are their sites that sell a "PS3X-Clamp Kit" to solve your over-heating issues.  But as for a debate on which system is better than the other? PS3 owners can say; "at least it works." 360 users can say; "well if it's not broken, it is better, just look at the sales.." LOL. But really? Who cares which is better, if your happy with what you have than that's all that really should matter to you.

And sorry for the extremely long comment to read... (that's what happens when I don't have any games to play at the present moment.) And one more thing, a friend of mine who got a 360 when it first came out recently went out and bought a 360 elite also. Well, I guess i'm the lucky one, because his elite didn't even last a month.  But his old 360 that he bought when it first came out still works, so go figure on that one...

To sum it all up, I'll quote what  I saw another user above write... "The reason why we still don’t hate microsoft and send them evil messages is because we love our 360s…we just wish they worked."

My thoughts almost exactly... except the "don't hate microsoft" part I'm not to sure about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first xbox was an elite, I was a little reluctant to buy a next-gen system at first. So I waited, and waited, after hearing about all the horror stories of 360 fans, and seeing all the videos on the RROD&#8217;s and other issues, I was glad I waited. Finally the elite was announced, I waited for 2 or 3 months and finally decided this was the 360 I was meant to get. </p>
<p>Well long story short, it lasted almost 8 months.. and now my system is currently back at the repair center and I&#8217;m waiting for it. I did not encounter the Red Ring of Death prob, my issue was with the video, was playing a game, started seeing some strange lines migrate across the screen, thought it was a dirty disc issue, went to the dashboard, saw the same lines showing up on there, next thought was it&#8217;s the tv, so I shut both off, turned the tv back on, 360 back on,  and everything was fine, except for the fact that now there was no video at all, I could hear my 360 in the background loading up and that&#8217;s it. Tried everything to fix it, different inputs on the tv, nothing, used the composite, component and hdmi hook ups in different inputs, nothing, tried it on 3 different tv&#8217;s and all their inputs.. nothing, bought another hd cable, thinking that was the culprit&#8230; nothing.  Only the audio remained after each try..</p>
<p>Called up MS support center, spoke to some Indian guy who spoke to me as if I was born yesterday, asked me if I had plugged in the correct colors of the cables into my tv. Before he could go on, I explained everything as I had above, he continued to not listen to what I had just said and asked me if I had tried a different television or a different cable. At this point, I lost it, I told him when I called I got a notification that this call maybe monitored and recorded, why don&#8217;t you find the part where I just explained to you what your asking me to do next. I&#8217;ve switched the cables, tried multiple inputs on different tvs, have tried switching from hdtv to standard definition on each of them, what do you not understand that I&#8217;m telling you? Finally he tells me to send it in, that was about 3 weeks ago now, and I&#8217;m still waiting&#8230;</p>
<p>I read a number of the comments above, some people are trying to belittle the people who have had problems by stating, I&#8217;ve had such and such number of 360&#8217;s and I never had a problem and so forth. If you haven&#8217;t than your one of the lucky ones, and until it happens to you, you won&#8217;t understand the frustration of others, so please shut your mouth. I wish there was an accurate statistic of how many 360&#8217;s have been returned for service that we could all go and look at, I would be willing to bet the ratio of defective products would be something like one out of every four sold. It could even possibly be 1 out of 3. It really wouldn&#8217;t surprise me. I did a lot of reading before I ever bought my system, the people with defective products sold to them heavily outweigh the people trying to support Microsoft and their inferior product. Glance and read above this comment and you will see what I mean. You could make the argument that there are less people supporting Microsoft on here because they are actually playing their 360 that works right now (for the time being.)</p>
<p>Another thing I never understood was this whole console war issue, PS3 vs 360. Some people will defend their playsations reputation vs the 360&#8217;s to their death. As if they held major stock in either product or helped build the dam thing. I just don&#8217;t get it, if it works, play the games and try to enjoy them. Gaming after all is supposed to be entertaining and fun, not a debate of who&#8217;s or what is better. If your fortunate enough to own both systems and one of them goes defective on you (and most likely we know which one that would be.) It doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean the PS3 is better and more entertaining of the two, I myself have played both a lot at friends houses before I bought my 360, and when it comes to playing online, the 360 experience for me was much better. The gaming and graphics on both are equal (and if there is a difference, it&#8217;s very subtle), however the online experience on the 360 is much more satisfying, and less prone to experiencing lag on certain games. Problem is, if your like me and you get a defective 360 product you do tend to wonder if buying a PS3 maybe the way to go. After all, last time I checked, there aren&#8217;t 100&#8217;s of sites and forums dedicated to solving your PS3&#8217;s issues, nor are their sites that sell a &#8220;PS3X-Clamp Kit&#8221; to solve your over-heating issues.  But as for a debate on which system is better than the other? PS3 owners can say; &#8220;at least it works.&#8221; 360 users can say; &#8220;well if it&#8217;s not broken, it is better, just look at the sales..&#8221; LOL. But really? Who cares which is better, if your happy with what you have than that&#8217;s all that really should matter to you.</p>
<p>And sorry for the extremely long comment to read&#8230; (that&#8217;s what happens when I don&#8217;t have any games to play at the present moment.) And one more thing, a friend of mine who got a 360 when it first came out recently went out and bought a 360 elite also. Well, I guess i&#8217;m the lucky one, because his elite didn&#8217;t even last a month.  But his old 360 that he bought when it first came out still works, so go figure on that one&#8230;</p>
<p>To sum it all up, I&#8217;ll quote what  I saw another user above write&#8230; &#8220;The reason why we still don’t hate microsoft and send them evil messages is because we love our 360s…we just wish they worked.&#8221;</p>
<p>My thoughts almost exactly&#8230; except the &#8220;don&#8217;t hate microsoft&#8221; part I&#8217;m not to sure about.</p>
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		<title>By: Logic</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-25707</link>
		<dc:creator>Logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not posed here for a long time on purpose, because the last time i did i was told by mikey that i was wrong and biased, and some other guy told me that HD was winning the new format war...well....Blah Blah Blah...since my last post plenty more people have come here and spoke about the ills of dealing with MS! And Ps3 has made a huge bounce back, and with the next few quarter line ups will be doing REALLY well. For all of you folks that went with HD.....sorry....but i said it before and i'll say it again      MS does not care about black people..lol...im kidding but for real...they don't cr as much as they should about the people that spend as much as  we do on this type of entertainment. If they did there would be no place for post like this

when Bush gives me my $600 im getting a PS3 thanks Bush!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not posed here for a long time on purpose, because the last time i did i was told by mikey that i was wrong and biased, and some other guy told me that HD was winning the new format war&#8230;well&#8230;.Blah Blah Blah&#8230;since my last post plenty more people have come here and spoke about the ills of dealing with MS! And Ps3 has made a huge bounce back, and with the next few quarter line ups will be doing REALLY well. For all of you folks that went with HD&#8230;..sorry&#8230;.but i said it before and i&#8217;ll say it again      MS does not care about black people..lol&#8230;im kidding but for real&#8230;they don&#8217;t cr as much as they should about the people that spend as much as  we do on this type of entertainment. If they did there would be no place for post like this</p>
<p>when Bush gives me my $600 im getting a PS3 thanks Bush!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sean555</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-25640</link>
		<dc:creator>sean555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had 2 xbox 360s that lasted a combined total of 2 months</description>
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		<title>By: X X X</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-24229</link>
		<dc:creator>X X X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-24229</guid>
		<description>Mr./ Ms. ?????, is this a remedy if it already happened? or is it a preventive move for it not to happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr./ Ms. ?????, is this a remedy if it already happened? or is it a preventive move for it not to happen?</p>
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		<title>By: ?????????????</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-23612</link>
		<dc:creator>?????????????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-23612</guid>
		<description>i know a cure put a pice of wood with square holes in it on the floor and place your xbox 360 on top the reason the xbox 360 keep over heating is because thares to many holes on it so the air gets trapped and the console over heats and bye bye xbox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know a cure put a pice of wood with square holes in it on the floor and place your xbox 360 on top the reason the xbox 360 keep over heating is because thares to many holes on it so the air gets trapped and the console over heats and bye bye xbox</p>
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		<title>By: snares2008</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-22643</link>
		<dc:creator>snares2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-22643</guid>
		<description>im fed up with problems with my 360 console .repair centre 2 times for red light 
motherboard problem replaced motherboard gave me a new console now iits scrached up my call of duty 4 modern warfare disk ring marks all round disk and jagged edges on it going repair centre again faulty dvd drive.  microsoft is useless. i wish i never brought it now ive had enough of these problems. i should of waited for ps3 wont make same mistake nxt time.im goin back to playstation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im fed up with problems with my 360 console .repair centre 2 times for red light<br />
motherboard problem replaced motherboard gave me a new console now iits scrached up my call of duty 4 modern warfare disk ring marks all round disk and jagged edges on it going repair centre again faulty dvd drive.  microsoft is useless. i wish i never brought it now ive had enough of these problems. i should of waited for ps3 wont make same mistake nxt time.im goin back to playstation</p>
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		<title>By: Robo</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-22579</link>
		<dc:creator>Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-22579</guid>
		<description>Its as simple as this, there are so many problems for so many people who own a 360. The reason why we still don't hate microsoft and send them evil messages is because we love our 360s... we just wished they worked. I have a console that scratches disks and has been fixed by MS twice. But its just gone again. My call of duty disk is also ruined. Gears of war ruined. Assassins creed ruined. no i dont move the console while the cd is in the damn machine Bill. You just need to use those goofy glasses while your building the damn thing. I want an xbox, nothing else. But if i cant play an xbox for weeks at a time whilst its getting fixed, what am i gonna play with? My girlfriend? I don't think so. I'd rather a red ring of death any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its as simple as this, there are so many problems for so many people who own a 360. The reason why we still don&#8217;t hate microsoft and send them evil messages is because we love our 360s&#8230; we just wished they worked. I have a console that scratches disks and has been fixed by MS twice. But its just gone again. My call of duty disk is also ruined. Gears of war ruined. Assassins creed ruined. no i dont move the console while the cd is in the damn machine Bill. You just need to use those goofy glasses while your building the damn thing. I want an xbox, nothing else. But if i cant play an xbox for weeks at a time whilst its getting fixed, what am i gonna play with? My girlfriend? I don&#8217;t think so. I&#8217;d rather a red ring of death any day.</p>
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		<title>By: sherry</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-22200</link>
		<dc:creator>sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-22200</guid>
		<description>I bought the XBOX 360 for my son who is a straight A student and I felt he deserved it. Lot more money than I wanted to spend but what the hec. Had it for around 8 months and OH NO, dreaded rings of death. Sent it in, listened to my son complain for about a month and finally got it back right at a month later-same unit serial # matched. Everything was going fine until...OH NO, dreaded rings of death again!!! Now to a 11 year old this is the end of the world, especially at Christmas when 90% of his Christmas list was XBOX games. Called up support and they are sending us a box AGAIN and this time I demanded to talk to someone so I could vent. Spoke to a Matt, id# 6708 who asked me a question right away...is your unit plugged into a surge protector? I immediatley said yes, because it is and he informed me that that is the problem. Well, needless to say I got a little upset because as usual, somebody is blaming someone else for their problem. I asked why hadn't anyone told me this before and why isn't that on any of the sites I have looked at for suggestions on what to do and he informed me that it is in the manual. I proceeded to tell him "you mean to tell me that all of these millions of blogs of people like me complaining about this piece of crap product have all caused it themselves by using a surge protector" and he said yes, that most of them probably were. Well, I owe it to the world to let them in on this secret- that it is your fault, you the consumer who spent your hard earned money, you who wasted hours talking to XBOX support and weren't told this secret, you, you are the problem!!! When I get this next unit back I vow to not plug it into a surge protector, I vow to leave it in a well ventilated area and I vow to read the owners manual as I was so smartly reminded by the XBOX support man, Matt id# 6708. This isn't XBOX's fault, this isn't an inferior product, this isn't a huge waste of money since they don't send you a new unit, they just "fix" the one you have...which by the way, breaks again 3 months later...This is my fault and I accept responsibility...now its your turn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the XBOX 360 for my son who is a straight A student and I felt he deserved it. Lot more money than I wanted to spend but what the hec. Had it for around 8 months and OH NO, dreaded rings of death. Sent it in, listened to my son complain for about a month and finally got it back right at a month later-same unit serial # matched. Everything was going fine until&#8230;OH NO, dreaded rings of death again!!! Now to a 11 year old this is the end of the world, especially at Christmas when 90% of his Christmas list was XBOX games. Called up support and they are sending us a box AGAIN and this time I demanded to talk to someone so I could vent. Spoke to a Matt, id# 6708 who asked me a question right away&#8230;is your unit plugged into a surge protector? I immediatley said yes, because it is and he informed me that that is the problem. Well, needless to say I got a little upset because as usual, somebody is blaming someone else for their problem. I asked why hadn&#8217;t anyone told me this before and why isn&#8217;t that on any of the sites I have looked at for suggestions on what to do and he informed me that it is in the manual. I proceeded to tell him &#8220;you mean to tell me that all of these millions of blogs of people like me complaining about this piece of crap product have all caused it themselves by using a surge protector&#8221; and he said yes, that most of them probably were. Well, I owe it to the world to let them in on this secret- that it is your fault, you the consumer who spent your hard earned money, you who wasted hours talking to XBOX support and weren&#8217;t told this secret, you, you are the problem!!! When I get this next unit back I vow to not plug it into a surge protector, I vow to leave it in a well ventilated area and I vow to read the owners manual as I was so smartly reminded by the XBOX support man, Matt id# 6708. This isn&#8217;t XBOX&#8217;s fault, this isn&#8217;t an inferior product, this isn&#8217;t a huge waste of money since they don&#8217;t send you a new unit, they just &#8220;fix&#8221; the one you have&#8230;which by the way, breaks again 3 months later&#8230;This is my fault and I accept responsibility&#8230;now its your turn!</p>
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		<title>By: jordandash</title>
		<link>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-21569</link>
		<dc:creator>jordandash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbox-360-elite-prone-to-same-problems-as-others/#comment-21569</guid>
		<description>the main reason the 360, get the 
RROD (red,ring,of,death), is because the system wasn't suppose to be played more then a certain time.  (example48HRS. straight), it over heats.  Causing it to get the RROD, with this then return it it to M$, for repair.  I've got links to this but for legal reason i'll just google it, or check youtube for reasons, as I did.</description>
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RROD (red,ring,of,death), is because the system wasn&#8217;t suppose to be played more then a certain time.  (example48HRS. straight), it over heats.  Causing it to get the RROD, with this then return it it to M$, for repair.  I&#8217;ve got links to this but for legal reason i&#8217;ll just google it, or check youtube for reasons, as I did.</p>
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