We’ve had numerous reports coming in of users getting 3 red lights on their brand new Elite consoles this morning. While this is a daily occurrence with 360 Premium and Core systems, we thought Microsoft would have had a better handle on the situation with the Elite.
We’ve all seen the pictures of the motherboard changes. I assumed that these would protect the console better from heat and such to make sure less consoles would die. But alas, no. Microsoft has introduced another new product that is failing at a higher than normal rate.
To top it all off, the disc scratching issue is back. Seriously Microsoft, what the hell? Did you completely get rid of your QA department?
Hey if the 360 doesn`t have a problem why are there 1000`s of refurbished one`s on ebay…for sale right now!!! going for like a 100-200 dollars. I really want a 360 and will buy one!!! but i`m getting the best buy buyer protection for 60$…covers it for 2 years return it anytime they will replace it!!!
This Video is as FAKE as it gets.
And the “sound” you hear is not coming from the console. lol
Anyway, I bought my Xbox 360 Elite yesterday. No problems, works perfectly fine.
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check this out, third party devs have these “funny” little things called external fans.
for the truly paranoid, u can buy one for the back and one for the base. cooling issues no longer a problem, and the fans r usually around twenty bucks. u can’t expect me to believe that u would be willing to spend three to four hundred dollars on a console and not twenty bucks for a fan. of course micro isn’t gonna give it to u, that’s what they do. use ur brain and go fix the problem urself. i know, i know, u shouldn’t have to, but it’s a lot better than the alternative cost. had one since christmas of ‘06, and still no problems (knock on wood). laters
You’re a goob. For every idiot like you that complains about a problem there are 1000’s that are not having any problems. Get your head out of your butt if you can.
seriously does microsoft even test their shit anymore? Vista sucks and is a rip off of Mac OSX but doesn’t even come close and even after a year of all the problems and time they had to solve them they still have the basic crap happening. Seriously Microsoft is becoming lazy and not testing anything anymore.
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My 360 Elite already broke also. Same problem as in the video!
Wow, some of you kids are fucking nerds. The 360 is awesome and I will be getting another one but they do have a lot of problems. You dumbass kids must be living under a rock to not see how many people have had to get their 360’s fixed. I got my Elite the days after release, and it just broke today. Sounded exactly like the video. It doesn’t scratch the disc, it just makes that noise and doesn’t work. MS is fixing or replacing mine. What sucks is the whole process takes 2-3 weeks. So I won’t have my 360 in time for the H3 Beta
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I just picked up an Elite this week and set it up yesterday. The thing froze up on me a few times. This morning I restarted it after it froze to be met with the 3 Flashing Red lights.
This is literally after playing the thing for less that 3 hours.
Unbelievable!
Hi I also had the 3 red lights problem, my warranty was over and I searched the web for solution and even tried a couple. But nothing worked permanently until recently… I found a great tech support site that had a really cool solution with step by step information and photos!
Here is the page for the solution – 3 red flashing lights Error Solution
Now it works like new, just don’t do it if you still have your warranty
ok for those of you who dont belive all of this.. here its proof of 360’s dying (its not an evil master plan from sony its real!) this is an official forum from xbox, you can see death after death of 360’s with the gamertag of the users posting..
http://forums.xbox.com/12275743/ShowPost.aspx
and here is the video of my 360 when it died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHLCq7FJEZs
My Xbox 360 failed after about 12 months. I got in contact with the xbox 360 support people, they had a courier come pick up my xbox 360, a week later a new 360 was returned to me with no problems. 8 months into my new console and I’ve had no problems at all. In my experience the customer support team were good and quite efficient. I don’t even think my 360 was under warranty but they replaced it regardless!
Over 5.4 million xbox 360’s have been sold in the US alone!
How many have failed?
There are only around 2000 posts on the ‘three red lights’ forum on the Offical xbox website and that seems to be the most troublesome problem.
I’ll do the maths…(or math if you are american!)…
Thats 0.04% of posts per xbox 360 sale!
Such a small percentage eh?
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facts the fact is ive had 4 consoles since launch. FG well i think its clear theres a problem 4 of my friends have had the same problems and are on there 2nd and 3rd console.
THERE IS A FLAW THAT NEEDS SORTING…
MONEY MONEY MONEY MICROSOFT YOU HAVE MADE ENOUGH OUT OF US ON XBOX360 NOW I WOULD LIKE A PRODUCT THAT WILL LAST YEARS.
THE 360 HAS A LIFE SPAN OF AVERAGE 6 TO 12 MONTHS THEN YA PAY.
I LOVE MA 360 I THINK IT IS AWSOME BUT IM AFFRIAD WHERE BEING RIPPED OFF.
IF THEY WANNA WIN THE CONSOLE WAR THEY NEED TO STEP IT UP AND GIVE US UNHAPPY PEOPLE WHICH IS NOT I REPEAT WHICH IS NOT A SMALL AMOUNT A GOOD LASTING CONSOLE.
I KNOW THAT NEARLY 98% OF 360 CONSOLES WILL BREAKDOWN IN LESS THAN 14MONTHS AND THATS FACT.
I’m not sure that you know for a fact that 98% of consoles break down in less than 14months. How could you possibly know that? However I’m sure it is a high percentage.
The console failing is only an issue if it’s out of warrenty. My advice to anyone who has a out of warrenty failed console (that has been looked after properly) is this…kick up like stink and demand a replacement console! It worked for me. Good luck. Give them hell!
I find this a little hard to swallow:
http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=37627
“Microsoft has still not revealed details of how many Xbox 360 units have been found faulty, but did state that the return rate is significantly lower than the CE industry average of between three and five per cent.”
Ive had two Xbox 360’s since the release date and i can confirm that the first one i bought broke after about 4 months without any warnings at all. The funny thing about this story is the error message read that i needed an Xbox 360 to play the game i inserted (ironic ah?). Im on my second console and to be honest ive had no problem at all and this ones about 1 1/2 years old so not sure what other problems that are being told of but i have to agree with most people that this is mis information in order to help the PS3 sales which are crap. I can go to any Computer shop in England and buy a PS3 and how long has it been out?? I couldnt buy an Xbox 360 for months after the release. Stick that in ya pipe Sony and tug hard…………………………………
This website is interesting:
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/710/710364p1.html
It has info on a poll that was held regarding xbox 360 failure rate.
This happened to me 2 weeks after I got my elite. I returned it for a pro now I’m having more issues but not the grinding sound like w/ the elite. It’s locking in game then not reading disc’s, any, after I reboot.
Most of you guys just don’t understand the point of the Elite. Yes, at first glance, it seems very pointless to come out with a new version so early….and it is! But, I have seen it quoted many times by Elite designers themselves, that, “The Xbox 360 Elite was purely designed for those who have not already purchased an Xbox 360 (core system OR premium)”. It was NOT, however, designed to compete with the PS3 in Hard Drive Gigs…That just wasn’t the point…but, I’m sure if Microsoft wanted to, they could obliterate Sony…True, Sony did very well in the 80’s/90’s…but, now Sony’s just thriving to compete with the next generation systems. And as for the Red Rings…You’re not lucky if you DON’T get them…you’re just UNLUCKY if you do! My theory is, “If you can’t risk the cash, then don’t buy the trash.” If you guys are so freakin scared that you’re gonna buy a 360 that’s gonna wig out….then, don’t buy it. Either you guys need to wait until ALL of the bugs are worked out and Microsoft will cover you 100%, no matter what happens…OR, you need to live life to the fullest and go ahead and purchase your Xbox, and try to get some fun out of it…And that’s the truth.
I just bought an Elite new today, brought it home the whole thing is messed up. the system doesnt recognize the harddrive. I could not transfer any data from my premium. When I when to jump online it said the hard drive was not connected. I was on the phone with the Xbox Live help and after 2 hours they said it was the hardware and that Microsoft would have to contact me directly in 3-5 days to see about a solution to the problem. Crappy considering I had to drive 86 mi to get one.
I feel your pain there, elite poop. I had to drive 256 mi to get mine…If anything happens to mine…I’m going to be severely pissed off!!
256 miles… that’s some SERIOUS dedication right there. wow
Yeah…it’s probably bordering obsession…oh well, whatever…it was so worth it. But, if anything happens to it and Microsoft has a problem replacing it for FREE…I’ll make their life hell…
News corp. does not own sony! The Xbox 360 does have issues! both systems cost the samw when you add on the hd dvd, and wifi…Sony system not know for just plain over heating, and the power core is in the console not a seprate brick. Sony makes a better product. Simple.
News corp. does not own Sony! The Xbox 360 does have issues! both systems cost the same when you add on the hd dvd, and wifi..MS just happend to give you a choice .Sony system not known for just plain over heating, and the power core is in the console not a seprate brick. Sony makes a better product. Simple.
Hey, we’ve got your point, logic. But, there’s no need to double-post, Einstein!
it was an accident i was at work….when i found this site and hit “submit” having not edited what i wrote…..or i just really need to be heard….one of the 2…Darwin!
That’s understandable, then…
These people claiming that the 360 is flawless are either hopeless fanbois, or extremely extremely lucky. No shit that with the amount of 360s sold, there might be some that actually came out well crafted but the majority of them suck.
Mine crapped out on me, and it has for countless others. I’ve kept mine in an air conditioned room, away from all other electronic devises, cleaned almost every day, and it still died. I don’t want to hear that crap that about Criss Angel levitating your 360, but you shouldn’t have to treat a new gen console like a baby.
i dont understand how MS can allow towels and erassers to fix such high end equipment, my cousin won’t admit he is a fan of MS, and he thinks im a fan of PS…but im a fan of the right tool for the job….if i need to play halo…its only gonna happen on an xbox…same with tekken and PS3….at the end of the day for all the money we spent and will spend i just want it all to work…. playstation seems to be living up to the challege while xbox is not….anybody see any sites like this for ps3?….i just wonder because so far all i have seen are sites and post related to its launch…not much info on returns and fail rates.
if u have please let me know
By the way mike 5,000000 divided by 50= 100000 per state worth of xboxes, if even 0.1 percent of that failed that would be 1000…so saying only 0.04 percent of them are bad while using a number so large as 5,000000 don’t mean jack. potentially 1000 or so people in any given state could be affected by bad xboxes if this is the case…i dont know how the numbers break down per state for sure but id say that the east coast west coast and parts of the south got bigger shipments than say nebraska….point im making is that….if the numbers were between 600-1100 that is unaceptable, thats why MS now has an extended waranty, and in some cases a dont ask policy…but…. i could be wrong on the math…he he he..see if it checks out
Ok logic, I was just stating the stats as they are. I guess only a small percentage of people write up there 360 problems on the official website.
P.S. Logic, you talk rubbish.
Why is it “rubbish”….i was only stating the stats as they are as well…using YOUR figures…..all im saying is that even though you dont hear about working xboxes as much as you do ones that dont..it still means MS has some issues to work out with its product at the end of the day all we want to do is play games and when you have purchased xbox live for a year, the head set numerous point cards bought at least 12 games….and the upgrades to oblivion that pc people can get for free and then some……yes….people tend to get a bit angry that the main part of the purchase the damn box itself wont work right…that is the true meaning of RUBBISH!
Sorry logic, that was wrong. I should have said ‘trash’ right?
Well trash-rubbish-shit…..whatever….makes no difference to me….point is i dont like having to deal with a product that has as many problems as this product seems to have…. because of what i have invested i have to deal with MS for now…..but if i would have waited for PS3 i might not have as many games to play but they would be getting played instead of people telling me about how much fun they are having on Oblivion i might have spent 600, but that would have been the end of it…most have had to pay to get repairs, so the cost becomes a washout issue…finally im not trying to come down on you because you like xbox…. maybe yours works fine…i only used what u said because thats how bad it COULD be….im also talking to the people who have the same issues i do with a company product that has a high fail rate…if the problem is found in any xbox it should get fixed for free no-matter the generation because its the SAME PROBLEM wheather it was bought today or in 05.
if im wrong then tell me what im wrong about dont just say im talking trash, that aint a strong aurgument
Okay folks, here’s my story: I decided the other day to go out and buy a refurb 360. At the timeI was at my parets for the long weekend out in the country. So I drive all the way to the nearest EB-Games and pick one up. About an hour drive in a gas gussling peice of shit truck. I get the 360 play it for a bit (GRAW 2) and it starts to freeze up every ten minutes or so. Then I get the 3 lights of death. So I take the goddamn thing back ( another long drive, and a raping of my wallet on gas) and get another one. Thi time they promised me it would work. Hell it even said on the box 100% garanteed. So what the hell I thought. What are the odds that 2 could me screwed up. Well well well…. I get the thing home and ……. 3lights of death. So as you can assume I’m mighty pissed. Now I’m heading back down to take it back and buy an elite. So I hope for god sake it works.
Hmmmm,…..now what are the odd that ….naw it could’nt be…2 form the same store….used, and bad….??????…i just dont belive it……LOL…..best bet buy new at best buy get the rewards card as well….anything happens they take care of you…no matter what MS is doing at the moment…if it breaks…take it back no fuss no muss…at least that way you can just take them as they break and not have to send it out…i wonder how long best buy will put up with that though?
LOADSA,
You’re an idiot. I’ve had 2 xbox’s break. I know a bunch of people with the same problem. Yeah, I’m sure Sony has an entire department devoted to writing bogus stories about the 360 breaking. That’s exactly how a multi-billion dollar business operates. I’m sure they don’t have anything better to do.
It’s a flawed product. You’re xbox will break. Just wait dude.
Okay well I got the elite yesterday , and so far no problems. When I was at EB Games though they told me EB had a conference and voted not sell any refurbs anymore. Apparently the store calculated that they have a 92% defficiency rate. Microsoft must have a team of monkeys from Cambodia fixing them and sending them out to be sold again.
IGN published an article yesterday explaining that 0 of xbox 360’s are rumored to be defective. I just got off the phone with MS, and though the operator didn’t have to reveal that info, she totally confirmed that more than 0 of xbox 360’s experience hardware failure!
Do the math. About 10 million units have been sold to date. So roughly, 3 million of those 10 million units break!
So for all of you lucky little bitches that are like (insert high pitched girl voice here)…
“I’ve had my xbox since it launched and haven’t had any problems”
You’re not nearly as safe as you think you are. In fact, you’re narrowly dogding the bullet. Furthermore, we know that a 1/3 of all xbox 360’s break within the first 2 years (sometimes it’s within the first 2 months). There’s still tomorrow, next month, next year, and the year after that. Are you really that confident, in light of the numbers, that you’re xbox will survive?
Have you even considered the possibility that there is an irreversible design flaw that has gone unaddressed in every xbox 360 ever sold? Have you considered that that design flaw always produces the same result? That result being the 3 red lights of death? Have you considered that?
Well, there are few nerdy, really nerdy people out there that have cracked open the 360 and have discovered that there is in fact a fatal flaw. I don’t know the details because i’m not an engineer but i was able to understand that the xbox produces a lot of heat and that heat causes certain parts to become less solid and in that process certain parts press against a hugely important component resulting in it breaking that super important component. Hence the hardware failure and the 3 red lights.
So, if you play a lot your xbox will get hot and it will eventually break. It sucks. It just really, really sucks.
IGN published an article yesterday explaining that 30 percent of xbox 360’s are rumored to be defective. I just got off the phone with MS, and though the operator didn’t have to reveal that info, she totally confirmed that more than 30 percent of xbox 360’s experience hardware failure!
Do the math. About 10 million units have been sold to date. So roughly, 3 million of those 10 million units break!
So for all of you lucky little bitches that are like (insert high pitched girl voice here)…
“I’ve had my xbox since it launched and haven’t had any problems”
You’re not nearly as safe as you think you are. In fact, you’re narrowly dogding the bullet. Furthermore, we know that a 1/3 of all xbox 360’s break within the first 2 years (sometimes it’s within the first 2 months). There’s still tomorrow, next month, next year, and the year after that. Are you really that confident, in light of the numbers, that you’re xbox will survive?
Have you even considered the possibility that there is an irreversible design flaw that has gone unaddressed in every xbox 360 ever sold? Have you considered that that design flaw always produces the same result? That result being the 3 red lights of death? Have you considered that?
Well, there are few nerdy, really nerdy people out there that have cracked open the 360 and have discovered that there is in fact a fatal flaw. I don’t know the details because i’m not an engineer but i was able to understand that the xbox produces a lot of heat and that heat causes certain parts to become less solid and in that process certain parts press against a hugely important component resulting in it breaking that super important component. Hence the hardware failure and the 3 red lights.
So, if you play a lot your xbox will get hot and it will eventually break. It sucks. It just really, really sucks.
IGN published an article yesterday explaining that 30 percent of xbox 360’s are rumored to be defective. I just got off the phone with MS, and though the operator didn’t have to reveal that info, she totally confirmed that more than 30 percent of xbox 360’s experience hardware failure!
Do the math. About 10 million units have been sold to date. So roughly, 3 million of those 10 million units break!
So for all of you lucky little bitches that are like (insert high pitched girl voice here)…
“I’ve had my xbox since it launched and haven’t had any problems”
You’re not nearly as safe as you think you are. In fact, you’re narrowly dodging the bullet. Furthermore, we know that a 1/3 of all xbox 360’s break within the first 2 years (sometimes it’s within the first 2 months). There’s still tomorrow, next month, next year, and the year after that. Are you really that confident, in light of the numbers, that you’re xbox will survive?
Have you even considered the possibility that there is an irreversible design flaw that has gone unaddressed in every xbox 360 ever sold? Have you considered that that design flaw always produces the same result? That result being the 3 red lights of death? Have you considered that?
Well, there are few nerdy, really nerdy people out there that have cracked open the 360 and have discovered that there is in fact a fatal flaw. I don’t know the details because i’m not an engineer but i was able to understand that the xbox produces a lot of heat and that heat causes certain parts to become less solid and in that process certain parts press against a hugely important component resulting in it breaking that super important component. Hence the hardware failure and the 3 red lights.
So, if you play a lot your xbox will get hot and it will eventually break. It sucks. It just really, really sucks.
THE KIDD IS CORRECT- MY 65 day old elite JUST kicked the bucket- same error-same sound. Piece of smelly, stinky, runny molded shit- thanks MS- thanks for all the lost fun, for the 40 minute waiting on the phone-scratching my ass wondering why fuck your customers ???????? I AM NOW A PS3 MAN- YEP-YOU WILL BE 1-2 SOON !!!!!
Mr. Gates- I want to party with you man !
PS3 OR 360 ELITE?