So I’ve found pretty quickly that the PS3 has some MAJOR High Definition scaling issues. It’s affecting almost everyone in both games and movies. Many games made for 1080p won’t scale properly to 1080i, and sometimes 720p. I’m having a huge issue with Blu-Ray movies. It shows as 1080i (even though I have my HDTV setup as 720p in the Media Bar), but it’s very grainy and looks like standard DVD. I spent 2 hours on the phone tonight with Sony Customer Support trying to troubleshoot the issue. The first guy I spoke with for 45 minutes, and he was about as smart as a retarded monkey. He was basically telling me that my HDTV was broken because it can’t display 720p, even though I told him some games and all downloaded content displays fine at 720p. He wanted me to try a few things and call back. So 20 minutes later, I called back and spoke to a fairly helpful woman. After reading what happened in the last phone conversation, she put me on hold for 2 minutes, and came back and said it’s a known issue that is being looked into. I told her how angry I was about spending a shitload of money on a PS3 and Blu-Ray movies for it all not to work as it should (and highly advertised by Sony). She said a firmware update should be available “in the next couple days” and that their team is “aware it’s a major issue and will be fixing it quickly.” Yeah, I’m sure that means 2 months before we see anything.
It’s pretty sad how broken the PS3 is. There’s tons of issues people are coming up. You’d think they’d do some better QA. I also found that it will completely freeze up if you try to reply to any messages you have on the system. Aside from that, there’s a ton of annoyances that could be fixed fairly easily. For instance, getting notifications of messages and when friends come online, like on 360, background downloading and queuing of downloads in the PlayStation Store, like on 360, a more unified online presence (same friends list in the XMB and across all games), like on 360. Sony has seen Microsoft make all these huge advances that people have come to expect and love, and haven’t done a thing to incorporate any of it into their system. Hopefully we’ll see it soon.
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Write a Comment»$ony, you suck.
And I laugh at all the people buying it, taking it home, and not quite working, like the story above.
next time don’t be an idiot consumer, idiot
That is what you get for buying a product as soon as it comes out. I don’t feel bad for you.
Sony rushed this thing into production and it shows. Sony is having one hell of a bad year.
Did you expect anything different? Sony has a long history, when it comes to their game systems, of telling consumers and third-party developers the they’ll get whatever Sony decides to give them at whatever price Sony decides to charge and like it. Did you expect the rushed delivery of an untested and overpriced console to be any different? Did you bother to read anything at all on the Web about the PS3 in the last 3 months or so? Next time maybe you’ll pay better attention to a company’s history and the warning signs in their botched launch.
You get what you pay for, and in this case you paid an awful lot for an awful system.
LOL owned. Poor Sony!
Dood the system just came out. Firmware updates will solve many of these problems. 360 had issues when it was released too.
I’m sorry, but it’s hard to take your article seriously when you start complaining about bluray not looking good on a 720p tv. First of all it was never meant to be displayed on the half-hd tvs that are so common. Scaling for those tvs by the nature of the resolution will be tough to perfect and may not get much better then a 480p dvd. No Bluray 1080i? Give me a break how about me buying a 360 and getting the three red lights of death to wait three weeks!!!!!
I’m sorry to say, but consumers can only blame themselves. You bit on the advertisements, you bit on their marketing schemes, and you failed to neglect Sony’s past history, or another past history regarding new console releases. I’m sure Sony has a great product on hand, but until they FIX all their bugs I won’t be getting one until next year. It’s why the 360 and Wii will be the systems to buy this Christmas season. Now you have a $600+ system sitting there and not able to use it at it’s full potential. POWNED by $ony! Sorry.
@Truth:
So what you’re saying is that the PS3 will, and should, look like crap on 99% of all hi-def displays out there? Native 1080p displays are relatively new. Hardly anybody has them. Most people who have a hi-def display have a 720p, like my 50″ Sony rear projection LCD. If the PS3 requires a 1080p display, that’s pretty retarded. I have my popcorn, and I’m ready to sit back and watch the PS3 go down in flames.
Weird, I have my PS3 set to 720p and BluRay looks great, and displays in that resolution. I haven’t bothered with 1080i since my set’s native res is 768.
Also, you do get pop up notification of friends coming online.
So that’s at least two things that don’t jibe. Did you install the system update when you first got online? Have you gotten online at all yet?
man, that’s what u get buying the console in the first day, even the firsts x360 consoles was having some problems, i think u guys should stay calm and wait for a fix, every console comes with some problems in the start.
It does not surprise me to hear of any of these issues. It does make me wonder what the QA process on these things are? Dont they have departments at Sony dedicated to Beta testing these things? Shouldnt majority of these things be caught prior to release? For the price gamers are paying now I want a system ready to rock out of the box, not after a firmware update. When you buy a car you dont wait for an update to make left hand turns, why are game products any different?
@360
You will wait for a long while, if you were retarded enough to buy a substandard HDTV then that is your problem. The smart people held off with their HDTV purchases to get True HDTV, not some half HDTV like poor old you. My PS3 with my brand new 1080p HDTV will rock thank you very much. Maybe 5 years from now you will join the true HDTV era with a real 3rd Generation console, not some lame underpowered piece of hardware,
drunk pandas and 360 - duh!
The whole point of the PS3 is 1080p resolution. Half the cost of the console is due to the fact that it is also a Blu-Ray DVD player. You people are looney if you think that it’s worth it to buy a full HD (1920×1080p) gaming console and DVD player for $600 (if not more) and use it on your low res TV. Just get a Wii. the games are better and there won’t be resolution issues. Or spend the extra $800 for new TV. Sony should have required proof from the first purchasers of the device that they would be able to use it to it’s full functionality, helloooo, they didn’t make this device for you - they made it for those who have the proper equipment to use it. The high price was supposed to weed out the low end gamers - i mean really, why did you buy it?
Hope the firmware doesn’t have a rootkit!
i feel sorry for sony that people who have issues like this are able to comment. i can only hope that people recognize that there is no reason to blame sony or feel sorry for someone who says “games made for 1080p won’t scale properly to 1080i, and sometimes 720p”
In response to Marthinus, may I ask what would be the point in getting a HDTV to play on a NES/Master System/Atari 7800/C64/GX4000?
And why would you have to wait 5 years?
Seems like an awful waste of money to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28third_generation%29
The funny thing is that everyone seems to except the fact that console releases are going to suck. If you all would not stand in line for a week, not buy everything that has a ps3, or x360, or wii logo on it the second it releases, then the companies would be forced to make a better product. From a business stand point, they can release shit, at what ever price they want, because idiots stand in line for a week to buy it. If I was sony, I would have done the same thing. In the end, you bought it. They got your 600. Why should they change, consumers need to make them change. That wont happen though, because when they release PS4. Which will suck by nature, and not work at first. There will be lines around the block again.
You get what you deserve when you encourage sony and other companies to act this way. Ill wait till next year, or christmas and buy a x360. The price is going to drop after black friday and the bugs are worked out.
Have fun with your 600 dollar brick. I hear you can hook it up to your sisters 13 inch TV with the RF converter and it should work ok though.
I personally find the ps3 launch to be more embarassing to watch than the original xbox launch which Micro$oft had been critized so much for at the time. I *wanted* an xbox when it came out (wouldn’t spend the loot) and when I played one the first time I was impressed not saying “wtf this shit is all busted” like SO many people say about ps3 now…..
and no I’m not a fanboy I am a gamer and I mostly use my pc but I’ve owned ps1,ps2,xbox,n64,nes,snes,sms,psp,gb,gba,gbc,ds,gg….so I don’t care who made it or what it cost because I buy them 2 years after they come out when the price is cut in half and the amazing next gen GAMES are out..
It amazes me how Sony has brain washed all you people with this “true” HD crap. 720p is every bit HD has 1080p and 1080i. The difference between all of them is minimal when comparing them all to SDTV. As already stated, 1080p is new, just like bluray, and to make a system that does not scale to a 90%+ population of HDTVs is utterly stupid and asking for trouble. If 90%+ of the population is retards for buying a HDTV that is only “half” HD and not “True” HD then sony is going to be biting the dust at the hand of a bunch of retards.
lolz , i knew PS3 was gonna suck when i read the xbox360 specs for the first time,
before $()NY fixes all its fuckups (of course it wont fix everything , due to crappy nvidia gpu) M$ gonna have a xbox3 out,
that why all sony tv support 720p. and sony will not upscale 720p to 1080p until everyone buy sony’s tv
C’mon. You guys with your “half of HD” statements make me laugh. How fking retarded are you? “True HD”??? LMAO!!! The only things capable of 1080p signals at this time are Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, and PS3 games. TV broadcasting companies are adopting 720p/1080i as broadcast standards. NOT 1080p and not anytime in the future (at least 10 years).
720p and 1080i are the unofficial HD standards right now, NOT 1080p. So for SONY to make a product that is not compatible with 90% of the HDTV’s in the homes of HDTV owners is FKING STUPID AND BAD BUSINESS.
They BETTER fix it with a firmware update. Its not worth spending over $2,000 just to move up from 720p/1080i to 1080p.
my ps3 works fine and i like it better than my 360. all you homo fanboys need to stop crying because sony > microsuck
I would like to address the online stuff you complain about. First off your friends do pop up when they sign on, do you have any friends? Secondly about the downloads, if you had 360 when it first came out it was the same exact thing. When you were downloading something off xbl you could do anything else. So Sony will do the same thing and do it with a firmware update. Yeah i don’t like how my blu-rays go to 1080i when i have ti setup to 720p but they still look ten times better the standard dvd. But watching the trailers in 720p look a lot better than the 1080i. But i watched superman returns, talladega nights, Monster house, Ice age and fantastic four. the only one that look grainy was monster house but it still looked great. Ice Age looks amazing and Superman. so I dunno how 1080i makes them look like standard dvd.
its funny how nintendo never has any of these release problems that the box and station seem to have.
I just got a ps3 from gamestop the other day to 0ff on eGay but i decided to open it up and play with it and on my 32″ Olevia 720P/1080i LCD monitor it wont display BR-disc of Talledega nights at 720p it displays at 1080i an looks like poop. It does however play resistance fall of man at 720p and ridge racer 7 at 720p I have it side by side w/my x360. For dvd the 360 is awesome because of the scaler and anti-aliasing. My roommates want to play the 360 cuz there are no games for ps3 that are worth playing right now. Resistance is in no way as good as gears of war. just my .02
everyone one here ma hankshi karin. PS3 rocks. xbox360 sucks. PC is the best. anyways sony will fix their problems cause they know that many people have 1080i, which really u idiots don’t know is not a bit different from 1080p. therefore they are goin to address the problem and hopefully as well with the controller issues. Xbox had problems too so Stfu have a nice day! and thank you
I have had ps3 sence nov17th , it plays great on my 52 tv. I am not having any issiues with the 720,1080i, my tv does not have 1080p, and it looks awsome. I can only imagin 1080p! but you can tell the difference 10 fold. and when i first went online with this game i downloaded the patch. remember that patches will fix most problems. did i mention i have not touched my 360 sence opening my ps3 box , it outplays .looks better , faster, smarter. may take a few months to get the bugs out , but if your waiting to but this your waiting to long for a machine that is patch friendly.
You know…it REALLY kills me how people are siding with the company on this. How can you sit there and blame all of these people who set a goal and saved for this system, and were LIED to by Sony?!? Some people actually had something to look forward to and were told nothing but good things and promised that they were getting the best of the best and what they ended up with was a system that didn’t live up to it’s reputation.
What’s even worse is…everyone accepted the release date being pushed back and all the delays and shadiness with what was going on with the release because they were believing in Sony, that this was all for the betterment of the system and that they weren’t going to release a product that wasn’t complete and would have issues…another LIE!!! I hope that people remember the way that this company is setting their standards and will be vocal about it, because only then will we see an effect from it. And as far as anyone who’s had to deal with their call center to fix anything…WOW…I’m sorry. We’ve dealt with it too and it’s no fun adventure.
So for all of you who accolmplished your goal of obtaining a PS3 on release i say kudos to you on achieving something that only a SMALL percentage of America was able to do. You’ve achieved something really good and it’s a shame that it was laced with lies from Sony. Don’t blame yourselves for buying the system too early or anything…it is Sony that will have the reprocutions for this and they’ll eventually fix all of the bugs!!
Companies always lied, lied before, and will lie again.
Any consumer who think he is not lied to after seeing some commercials is… frankly put… just an idiot.
Until the stupid consumers will realize that if they do not buy crappy products they are no longer created.
Hmmm…why didn’t they include a remote? this thing is a toy…no hdmi cable, no component cable…we’re talking about $20 each! No IRE 0 setting for movies, 720P scaling is broken:
movies output on my 61″ sammy in 720P using HD-dvd are stunning, normal dvds upscaled on that same XA-1 HD-dvd player look way better than bluray 720P on the ps3. hope it’s fixed on an update.
if they worried as much as protecting the HDMI signal, this thing would have been perfect at launch.
Just got mine last Thursday, I don’t know what you guys are saying, this system looks sick on my 1080i tv
I’ve had my PS3 since about a week after launch. Not one complaint! Play 720 games, 1080 P games and blu-ray movies all the time. Never had an issue. Looks amazing on my 1080 P TV.
Thanks Sony!
Hey — just wanted to put in my 2 cents that I’m extremely happy with PS3’s performance. I have a 2-year-old Samsung 720p set, 61-inch. I have it connected to the PS3 through HDMI. The PS3 sets the TV’s resolution automatically between 480p (DVD) 720p (most games) and 1080i (for the interface and for blu-ray). Even though my set is 720p native, it accepts the 1080i signal and scales internally. And Blu-ray looks AMAZING. Way better than HBO-HD and Showtime-HD off of DirecTV. Watched Ice Age 2 on Blu-Ray last night, and while the movie was mediocre, the picture was beyond incredible. In addition, the 720p games I’ve tried look spectacular. I am a bit disappointed that multi-channel SACD playback necessitates a receiver with an HDMI 1.3 interface (which doesn’t even exist yet on the market) but that’s just another toy to buy later… Darin
Truth, no offense, but you’re a fucking IDIOT. If you think the PS3 should not look good on 720p native TV’s then you need to shut your damn mouth. You clearly know NOTHING about HDTVs. 720p is by FAR the most common HD resolution, and looks absolutely STUNNING on 360 games and HD-DVDs. So why should Blu-Ray be any different? It shouldn’t. It should look amazing in 720p, not fuzzy and unclear. So by your logic, the PS3 should only look good on super expensive 1080p TVs? Idiot, just leave.
blake - yeah, someone woke up on the wrong side of the fucking bed. It’s been confirmed by basically every news outlet that the PS3 does NOT have an internal hardware scaler, meaning it can’t display BluRay movies at 720p. Do your homework before you come in here acting like you know a thing or two. No one ever said 720p sucks. Your post shows me you’ve never used a PS3 and are a complete Microsoft fanboy.
The PS3 will be updated several times over the course of its manufacturing. There is already a new version manufactured for the Australia /Euro/UK markets. Then there will be the smaller HD version, possibly later this year.
I just want to put across my personal view. Yes, I’m not going to deny that the PS3 has some minor niggly issues as with any new console. The scaler isnt much of an issue as most HDTV’s comply with 1080i as well as 720p, so if the output is set to 1080i the Blu-ray looks fantastic. I think that firmware should be released that allows it to be played back at 720p as this is better for more fast paced movies, but I’m sure Sony will sort this. I dont agree with claims that this has been rushed into, in fact, I think that it has far from been rushed into. I also would like to negate views that have suggested that consumers are ‘idiots’ for buying into the PS3 so early on. I bought it on release day, and I wasnt lured in by any of the marketing that Sony have put out. I bought it purely on my own initiative, more for the Blu-ray aspect of things than anything else.
But all in all, anybody that denies that the Playstation 3 is an amazing console with massive potential is simply living in their own little Microsoft fanboy world. As I said, yes it has flaws, but these can be easily fixed. I’m sure Sony are going to be quick to address all the issues, as in less than a month of me having the console, the firmware has already been updated twice.
Keep it up Sony.
It may have a lot of potential, but it just cannot deliver the realism in graphics the Xbox360 can.
I know what I’m talking about.
And…it just doesn’t have the uber-games like Mass-Effect, Halo 3, Gears, Fable 2, Forza 2, PGR4, Alan Wake, blablabla.
For an example: Gears of War reached the limits of the available internal memory the Xbox360 for using high-def textures while it can address the “plain” 512 Mb. And CliffyB said the Xbox360 was much more capable in doing lighting and physics. Gears is graphically miles ahead of the competition including Resistance. PS3 fanboys get over it.
I don’t have the money to buy more expensive stuff because I need money to socialize, like normal people do .
And, for the price-point of the PS3, it should be capable of doing much more than the Xbox360, but it cannot do that, it just isn’t powerful enough.
I know what I’m talking about.
Don’t convince me the PS3 can do better than mentioned games, because it can’t.
DingieM, you’re quite a funny xbox fanboy. you obviously do not know what you are talking about.
also remember; ps3 in 1 year behind its competition.. unlike microsoft sony keeps an open mind; any and anything will be made for this system.
shadow of colossus.. remember that? oh god the possibilities. fact of the matter is; sony will dominate this time round (AGAIN) they have taken huge risks and done themselves in.. however they will rise and crush microcrap and its awkwardness.
halo sucks! story wise it is cool.. multiplayer… just no imagination there.. should play some quake, unreal, counter strike…. even turok beats halo in all multi player aspects!
sorry; got carried away there… but admit it; all time brilliant games have been on PS…
Does anyone still have this problem with the Blu-Ray scaling. I just bought 300 and Apocalypto and they look worse than DVD quailty.
Drew - have you updated the firmware? I’m pretty sure they now display properly on all TV’s. You have to make sure your display settings are set properly.
@Dav
C’mon now. I own both systems and from reading your post its obvious who the fanboy is. Fact is there are not any games out on the PS3 YET that come close to games like Gears. I honestly dont care who “wins” or “loses” because I’ll be set either way. But this much is fact at this point… the 360 is destroying the PS3 when it comes to quality software.
i got my ps3 on the 1st day and nothing bad happen
to it same with my friend
i got my ps3 on the 1st day and nothing bad happen
to it same with my friend like wats all the fuss
i got my ps3 on the 1st day and nothing bad happen
to it same with my friend like wats all the fuss
ps3 rocks my friends my cousin and his friends love
so stfu xboxlovers
i got my ps3 on the 1st day and nothing bad happen
to it same with my friend like wats all the fuss
ps3 rocks my friends my cousin and his friends love
so stfu xboxlovers peace
Cool… Multipost much?
1080i, 720p. You’re funny. Actually, you’re sad believing this is “high definition”. I’m sorry you got duped into buying a 720p tv, but don’t blame SOny.
Get a true 1080p tv, then complain. Better yet, don’t complain, because the picture is AWESOME! I’m glad I did research before buying!
Viva la PS3! HD-DVD= low res crap. Maybe you should downgrade to that, for your downgraded 720p?
YEAH!
wow there is a lot of ms fanboys here ain’t there.
anyways i will just get right to it.
ok so the one who is having trouble seeing blue ray on his tv in 720p.
well got news for you blue rays are not your problem your tv is.
blue rays are mainly 1080p only.
some are 480i/p, 720p,1080i,1080p resos.
but very few have this most of them if not 3/4 of them are in 1080i/p.
so the reality is your tv sucks, because you only have a 720p tv,
and i have to tell you you probably paid more for that tv then i paid for my 47 inch lcd 1080p tv that supports all resolutions.
and i am sorry but the 360 is no good you pay more for a 360 now then you do for a ps3.
i bought my ps3 for 499 just this past november.
and i see that the 360 cost 588 or more.
and you only play on dvd’s still hahahaha that is funny shit,
they said it was hd-dvd and the reality is that it is a dvd.
it has dx 10 i give it that it would be nice if the ps3 had it and a 64 bit cpu but they skimped on that.
hopefully next time.
@hjason - We didn’t need anyone else commenting. But obliviously your post shows all of us that you are pretty immature.
720P doesn’t suck. It is just fine for most people. I’m sorry that a lot of us can’t drop however much you dropped on your 1080P TV. I have a 720P 42″ TV, and it look much better than my friends Tube TV. I’ve watching HD movies on 720P and they look great.
Also. I don’t think the 360 costs $588. You definetly pay less for a 360 if you just want it to play games with.
It’s all opinion, but you can’t just come here and say that all of us suck because we can’t afford 1080P TV’s.
Your argument is very flawed… i’ll leave it at that.
hahahahaha that is funny shit Fragloser i didn’t say you guys suck dumbass.
i said 720p tv’s and xbox sucks.
you are not getting the hd quality that most people are with a 1080p tv.
anyways here is your proof of how much a 360 is now days.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5824360
this is the elite with 2 games. and look how much it is.
the older xboxes suck worse at least this one is half decent.
and you are imature for turnning my words into a puzzle.
anyways i don’t care.
but i do care to hear how much you spent on your tv though.
I believe 2 years ago I spent around $700-800 on a 42″ DLP TV. It has HDMI and all of that, and it works fine.
Also: You have to remember that not everyone owns a 1080P TV. I have a lot of friends that have a PS3 that don’t have a 1080P TV. Just because you have the money for the console doesn’t mean you have the money for the 1080P TV to match it.
I think PS3’s are great actually (with the recent addition of UT3), but I do like my 360 more. I just don’t like it when Sony fanboys like you come and bash the 360 with arguments that don’t even make sense. I said that you pay less for a 360 if you want a gaming console.
That bundle you posted is so stupid. Do you seriously think you can fool any of us with an argument that dumb. The premium Xbox 360 is $350, which is great for a lot of people. That is cheaper than the PS3 if I am not mistaken.
PS3 is great, but xbox is definitely cheaper. You paid $499 for your PS3 with 1 game an 1 controller. I paid $349 for my 360 with 2 games and 1 controller.
I am wrong in the fact that I said that you hated us, but still, there is nothing wrong with a 720P TV, it looks fine and some early adopters didn’t have the money for a 1080P at the time, but would still like to watch Blue Ray movies in as high quality as possible.
@Fragloser
so i get that the 360 is stupid then and it makes no sense according to what you said. but yet your a ms fanboy.
i don’t see how what i posted is stupid it is a 360 with 2 games hense a gaming console.
that is the beauty of posting on sites like this man i can say what i want about the 360 and you can do anything about it just wine.
oh yeah you can keep your 360 because the ps3 is better.
and always will be.
by the way did you hear ms is putting blue ray inside of the 360?
it is going to happen sometime this year or at the beginning of next year.
and i believe i made perfect sense and said nothing stupid.
you are the one that can’t find the right words so you have to call me stupid.
and now for the tv situation never dais you had to buy a tv with a ps3 i said you can use it with a sd tv.
or you can go buy an hdtv so don’t change my words around dumb ass.
i think you can’t think of anything to say so you have to switch around what i say and make me look like the bad person for your personal gain.
and you must not think i keep any eye on this site, oh but i do and i suggest you stop try to flame me and for god sakes quit making yourself look stupid will you.
i can flame better then anyone you know so don’t get me started.
No I’m not an MS Fanboy. If I had the chance to own a PS3, I most certainly would for Resitance / UT3 / FFXIII and the rumored Crysis. I just bought a 360 because it was better at launch in terms of games for me.
What you posted is silly by the way. If you get the 80GB PS3 bundle and buy 3 games an an extra controller, it will end up costing you more than the 120GB Xbox 360. I’m not flaming by the way. You saying that you flame just makes you look silly.
120GB Eliite with (2 games that come with it another game a controller = the bundle you posted). 80GB PS3 with (1 game that comes with it 2 more games a controller = more than the 120GB elite). I’m talking from a person that wants to buy a console for games, not anything else.
20GB Xbox 360 (comes with 2 games 1 controller = $349)
40GB PS3 (comes with 1 game 1 controller = $399)
I would gladly own a PS3 if I had the money, I just think your arguments are very flawed.
At the time, 720P was a good priced TV for me to own. I don’t care if blue ray is 1920×1200, it should be able to scale to 720P like a lot of PS3 games do, and my computer does the same.
Go ahead and flame all you want, I’m just posting a coherent arguement. When I was over at my friends house btw I played UT3 and it was pretty sweet.
Wow, flame wars in an article that’s 1.5 years old.
Let me break it down here. Prior to mid 2006, you couldn’t get a native 1080p HDTV. Meaning the few sets on the market that were 1080p didn’t accept native 1080p input. Once full 1080p sets hit the market, they were fairly expensive for a while. So, anyone who bought an HDTV prior to mid/late 2006 got a 720p set. That resolution is still and will continue to be the sweet spot for HD content in games and broadcast.
If you notice, not many PS3 or Xbox 360 games support full 1080p natively. Many are upscaled in software or hardware by both systems. Just because it says 1080p on the box doesn’t mean the game runs natively at 1080p.
If you aren’t aware, Sony “fixed” BluRay movie scaling via a firmware update, basically by rearranging the priority of resolutions to move 720p above 1080i. The system properly displays the BluRay movies at 720p now. Games are a different story, as the PS3 does not include an internal scaler and can only display at resolutions supported by the game code.
Now, going off on people for not owning a 1080p set is plain stupid. Not everyone is willing to spend $1500 on a new HDTV, especially when they purchased one recently. And when that TV is perfectly supported by everything else on the market, the PS3 should be no different. So your argument of needing a special HDTV is not valid.
Feel free to discuss, but I’m sure I have a valid way to refute fanboy banter
Heh. I just saw the post on my email because I’m too lazy to get rid of my subscriptions lol.
I didn’t know that Sony fixed the blue ray scaling issue, thats sweet. Also, I think I may buy a PS3 soon and sell my 360 if PS3 starts getting really really good FPS and 360 is left out of it.
As of now, I still love COD4, Mass Effect, Bioshock, etc. I’m also eager to play Lost Odyssey
@Fragloser
man i bought the 80gb ps3, and i bought 5 games when i bought it.
then i went and bought my full hd tv the next day.
then the following week i bought 2 more games and another controller.
then when ut3 came out i bought that.
ut3 upscales to 1080p and also downscales to 480i.
it covers all the resolutions.
and blue ray is native 1080p which is a resolution of 1980×1224 or something like that i don’t know right off hand.
and the 360 was better at launch because it was the only system out.
@Fragloser
man i bought the 80gb ps3, and i bought 5 games when i bought it.
then i went and bought my full hd tv the next day.
then the following week i bought 2 more games and another controller.
then when ut3 came out i bought that.
ut3 upscales to 1080p and also downscales to 480i.
it covers all the resolutions.
and blue ray is native 1080p which is a resolution of 1980×1224 or something like that i don’t know right off hand.
and the 360 was better at launch because it was the only system out.
@drunk pandas
well drunk man i did not go off on people that don’t own a 1080p tv because they don’t own one.
that would be stupid now wouldn’t it?
i was saying if you want to experience the full hd experience on the ps3 then you have to buy a 1080p tv.
and sony did not fix this issue because if i downscale a blue ray movie with my 80gb ps3 to 720p it is all crappy looking and fuzzy.
that is because it is ment for 1080p only.
now i know there are not many games in 1080p for the ps3 and there will never be many games in 1080p because people believe that 41080p looks like crap and it has blur and everything else on it.
but that is a lie it has non of those things it is the clearest picture known.
plus the ones who say that have dlp tv’s and plasma tv’s.
those tv’s are known to have the blur effect on them.
the new dlp tv’s are better with the new technology they have emitted in them.
and games in 720p can upscale to 1080i/p but only some of them. like i have cod4 it is native 720p but it actually only is in 600p. and i can upscale it to 1080p with no problems it is clearer and more detailed.
no frame rate issues like people think either.
and here is another example i have ncaa 08 football, it is native 720p.
i cannot upscale this game to anything higher because ea sucks and will not allow it even though it would make the game look and play better then it does.
so you see i know what is going on with the ps3 and the games and tv’s aswell.
so i think you mistook my words for slander and twisted them all around just like fragloser did.
thanks for your information though.
Man you have a lot of money :). Also, the resolution is 1920×1080. An easy way to remember the 1080 is that its called 1080P.
My laptop screen is 17″ and has a 1920×1200 screen
guess Ineed to throw in my two cents. Honestly.. Sony is a company showing how well they build on lies and false advertising. IHave a ps3 and an xbox 360. Definately when it comes to gaming, prefer, the 360. Just seems to look better on my 720p TV! OMG! I ONLY HAVE 720! you people are lame sometimes out there on the net. and yes blu ray doesn’t look as great as it could, but it does still look a step above. maybe if you spaced yourselves away from the tv appropriately, some of the graininess would go away (not all, but it certainly looks better at a distance than close up). Sony mad a crap decision for a crap system this time around. and honestly If it wasn’t for the fact I love MGS 4 and am looking forward to a few other exclusives, I would already be selling this replicated foreman grill with spiderman font on top. PS3 is garbage.
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